Did you feel a sense of dread about the way things were going, even before the Corona virus pandemic? Five years ago when clinical psychologist Margaret Klein Salamon claimed a climate emergency she was called alarmist and extreme. Now cities and countries all over the world call a climate emergency. Margaret has a new book on how to overcome eco-anxiety. Forget the year 2100 – new science shows ocean systems begin to die off during this decade, with land ecology soon after. Dr. Alex Pigot joins from London to explain this major paper published in the journal Nature.