Humans easily fixate on catastrophe, whether real or imaginary. Does the nation, the economy, or even civilization need to collapse in order to start anew? Who benefits if we think like that, and would things get better or worse? A feature interview with Eddie Yuen, co-producer of “Against the Grain” on KPFA radio San Francisco, and editor of “Confronting Capitalism: Dispatches from a Global Movement.” Originally broadcast October 19, 2016 – but as stocks tumble and government stumbles, it is time to look again.