Big storms, fires, risings seas and just plain punishing heat, – climate change is rolling up on us. It is too much, while dodging a pandemic, business closing and job loss. But there is help: UK psychologist Rosemary Randall is with Cambridge Climate Therapists. On February 17, 2021 Ro Randall gave the best climate mental health workshop ever. It was hosted by Meg from Britain’s Centre for Alternative Technology. Here is Ro Randall’s latest “Coping with the Climate Crisis”, with online attendees around the world.
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Credits: Presented by Centre for Alternative Technology, UK on Feb 17, 2021.
Ro Randall at rorandall.org
Recorded and edited for radio by Alex Smith of Radio Ecoshock
SEE THIS RO RANDALL PRESENTATION ON YOUTUBE HERE.
You can find this video here at CAT webinars page and there is blog about this program here.
This event is ably hosted by Meg at CAT, the Centre for Alternative Technology. It is an environmental education charity with focus on positive solutions. They offer 9 postgraduate courses and research. Explor Zero Carbon Britain with online courses, plus a Visitor Centre hosting schools and universities (after the pandemic). Here is how to connect and follow the work of CATTwitter @centre_alt_tech Facebook: Centre for Alternative Technology.
Get more from Ro Randall at her web site, and find Cambridge Climate Therapists here.
FEELING CLIMATE ANXIETY
Ro says some of the symptoms of climate anxiety can be difficulty sleeping, guild, shame, and deep questions like “should we have children”. When people hear about climate change, they may feel shock, disbelief, fear, or anger. Many of us feel a sense of loss of the future we assumed would be there. Just knowing the climate science, when others are ignoring it, can lead to feelings of isolation from family or friends.
There is no quick fix, Randall says. It takes time, space, and support to make sense of these feelings.
Ro Randall
THE ARC OF ACTIVISM
Ro tells us about her work with Paul Hogarth at the University of Western England. They found four steps of activism:
1. it starts with an epiphany, a new understanding about climate change
2. that can lead to total immersion, the person looks up everything they can find, follows people on social media with posts about climate, etc
3. concerted action, the information drives the individual to response. They put everything into it
4. burnout, the needs of everyday life return, and after some exhaustion, the person settles to do what they can more realistically. Ro calls that “sustainable activism”.
But not everyone goes on this kind of journey. There is no road map. In this talk, Ro offers an alternative: looking for signs of life. She says “always in the bleakest place there is some point of growth”.
THE GRIEF OF KNOWING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE
She then discusses the grief of knowing climate change will bring hardships, even disasters. Grief may not be a journey at all, but “a mess” she says. During her talk, Ro mentions William Warden, who sees grief not as “stages” but as a series of 4 tasks. Step One is to accept the reality of the crisis. J. William Worden wrote the book “Grief Counselling and Grief Therapy” where he outlined “the four tasks of mourning”.
Ro also offers an analogy from her colleague Simon Lacy. After finding out “normal” weather is departing, we become like “an uprooted plant”. This makes us ask “What kind of plant are you?” and what are your real needs in a changing world?
Climate anxiety is normal to this situation and doesn’t usually require specialized psychological help, Ro tells us. She offers the metaphor of digestion – it takes time. Remember, we have no customs and practices for dealing with climate anxiety. If you do need professional help, the Climate Psychology Alliance offers free counseling sessions (in the UK). Hopefully psychologists and other mental health professionals will recognize climate stress and find better ways to help than drugs.
She also recommends the work of the late American psychologist Marshall Rosenberg. He founded The Center for Nonviolent Communication which is still giving courses and seminars.
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MY PREVIOUS RADIO ECOSHOCK INTERVIEWS WITH RO RANDALL
February 4, 2015
Listen to Ro Randall on Radio Ecoshock in 2015 (22 minutes) in CD Quality or Lo-Fi
Back in 2013, we heard from Rosemary or Ro Randall. She’s the UK psychotherapist that co-founded Carbon Conversations – the circles of people who meet to talk about climate change. The show is “Coping: Climate Anxiety. Preparing: Dehydrating Food” as posted on April 17, 2013.
You can listen to/download this 2013 Rosemary Randall interview on coping with climate change (29 min).
HERE IS A GREAT YOUTUBE PRESENTATION BY RO RANDALL (2019)
Rosemary Randall “Climate, Psychology, Conversation” posted Mar 13, 2019 as part of the Cambridge Climate Lecture Series.
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Alex Smith
Thank you so much for your radio program. It’s amazing to say the least. It’s real, raw, true, so much HEART and so much more.
I am in Medford Oregon, a fourth generation local.
I have been living in forest fire smoke every summer now for 8 years straight and it is getting worse.
This September 2021 was hazardous almost all month and it was smoky for weeks at different times through out the summer.
I taped a filter on a box fan and it was black, very black after 3 days….that’s inside our home.
Maybe I can send you a citizen piece written by me on how totally drastic the fire situation is in our area and the drastic difference from the last 8 yrs compared with the 43 yrs I’ve been alive in the area.
For ex, in the past 8 years my father’s ranch almost burned, his business burned down(2 different towns, 2 different fires, 2 different years), 2 neighboring towns burned in the 2020 Almeda fire, and much more! This is not even the rural areas….these are towns on the major I5 interstate.
I don’t think people can comprehend how we are living right now in this fire climate, climate change. And now a heat wave this 2021 July 100 and 113 degree weather all of July! We are all pretty scared for next year because of this heat. If it is already this bad!…..add 100 + degrees an entire month! And 113 degree weather.
But it is the fires and smoke that is incredibly different and drastic and becoming down right scary and hazardous to live in.
Medford Oregon is 100,000 population…not rural. With many surrounding towns that are not out in the middle of the forest.
Everybody is trying to keep their cool, but we all know. Our wonderful channel 12 news people(I do really like them) are amazing and not sugar coating it while being truthful,professional and they are worried. Our meteorologists are scared every summer….we all know and we’re all losing our healthy air.
Sept 9th 2020, fires started and raged all up along the west coast from california to Portland Oregon.
My son and I fled!!!….they call it evacuated….the Almeda fire, Sept 9th 2020 only to drive up and down the major interstate I5 into more fires where my son was playing with fallen ash like snow.
It was terrifying even though you stay strong and positive and take action. Thank goodness for the red cross. It was terrifying…I’ll say it again…terrifying.
Well, your program has been a beacon of light to my soul! Thank you so much.
Maybe I can right a citizen report on what is happening in our environment at this time. Also how hard it is for our towns and cities to react…..for ex, evacuating 100,000 people on a one lane highway that always has construction in the summer…..warning systems outdated and crashing from overlaod….but also the amazing and miraculous humans showing their humanity and goodness and pulling off miracles…..
The Almeda fire was burning homes at 4 seconds, raging winds blowing embers causing spot fires, roaring through towns, shutting parts of I5, and first responders went door to door rescuing and evacuating people!!!!! 2 towns burned and less than 5 deaths. Heroic and beautiful! There is goodness!
And that is one thing I must write about with my experience and living in climate crisis……it’s scary as hell but people have made it a bit better getting through it. I’m not as scared…..right now I’m just wondering how we will breath.
It’s hard when my 7 yr old can’t go out and play without caughing
because of the smoke. Youth outdoor sports and programs are cancelled…. and we’re already in a pandemic. Also, I’m a single mom…. how do I afford to move where there is fresh air?
The smoke in our lungs…its a lot of smoke for weeks and hazardous on the air quality index….has got to effect respiratory illnesses as well!
The earth can’t breath, we can’t breath in Medford Oregon and George Floyd couldn’t breath. I don’t think it’s a coincidence dear Lord…..oh our sweet earth and the creatures and corral reefs…and humans….sigh.
I always feel guilty talking about any tragedy or hardship being an American because I am well aware of what is going on in the world. I am grateful for my life but I also just tell the truth. There are Americans who suffer here too. There is also climate crisis in America.
Well, I am grateful for your radio program. I will donate.
Thank you also for airing a Christian scientist climate
activist!
I am a Christian who voted for Bernie Sanders, listens to Democracy Now, loves Howard Zinn and your radio and I rarely hear a good thing or a good Christian on independent media lol…..there are quite a few actually.
Its always a birthday gift to me to hear a Christian fighting for climate change, the poor, human rights, animal right, etc.
Thanks again…..I cannot tell you enough how much this radio show has done for my soul, my education, my heart, my spirit to move into action, connection with others who are saying and thinking as I am on this issue when sometimes there is no one else who is devistated and worried and angry and sad because species are dying and the polluting of the earth needs to stop and we all need our connection back with the earth.
Lastly, you had a guess on that said nature is harsh(paraphrasing) and getting back to harmony with earth is not ideal or pleasant …..everything is trying to eat everything he said lol…..well I see it differently.
Natives were not perfect….there is no utopia….but dam it….I miss being a part of the earth!
A dog was not created by God to be a pet…..they were in packs, covered much territoty/ earth…..lived with the land……think of all the ways a domesticated dog lived.
Animals are not meant to be pets….a fish in a bowl…neither were we. I am disconnected from earth and it’s awdful.
Well, bless you. I pray you have joy and love and light and life through all this.
Thank you again!…….the only time I personally get to connect with my kind lol is listening to your radio….reading A People’s History Of The United States, etc.
Bless you, Emily from Medford Oregon